Glad to hear about the “opt in”.
Partially blind guy here who struggles to use computers these days because EVERYTHING IS FREAKING TEENY TINY TEXT YOU CAN’T CHANGE ESPECIALLY MOBILE AAAAAH IT HURTS.
Ahem.
Yes I’m a bit bitter :)
Another thing is that this standard does not allow setting an absolute size… you can only use fractions, for example, 2/3 of normal size, which can still be relatively big if your normal size is big.
I also expect making things bigger for emphasis (or adding headings) would likely be more common than making them smaller (that’s what I hope at least). Outside of things like mathematical notation where superscript/subscript might be useful (see this comment for some examples).
The problem with the web is that some websites use absolute units that might not scale well (like
px) to define the sizes.
ok, that’s it, I’m donating monthly
Thanks, I hate it :)
I’m waiting for the day when these enhanced terminals go full GUI and mouse driven.
Wait, are we moving on from vim vs emacs?
Goyal goated as always
Kovid GOATal
Kitty is probably the best terminal emulator I’ve ever tried out… It even made me drop Tmux as multiplexer on my stupid Mac !
I only have basic use case right now, nothing complex but customization seems way above others.
The full OSC52 integration with micro for copy/past over SSH and taking up the terminal clipboard was also a game changer (nearly dropped micro because of this…)
I only scratched the surface and have only basic usage and still I can’t believe one single person is behind this project (I think?).
As a non-user of kitty, why did it make you drop tmux? Don’t they do different jobs?
Kitty has multiplexing built in so it can also replace a lot of what tmux does (unless you’re using tmux over ssh)
That exception is my primary use case for tmux, so that explains it.
Kitty can do multiplexing over ssh as well. If you have kitty installed on the remote, you can use Kitty’s builtin ssh wrapper and get a lot of useful features.
https://sw.kovidgoyal.net/kitty/kittens/ssh/#opt-kitten-ssh.forward_remote_control
I like it mainly because of the image protocol and supporting both x11 and wayland. I still have alacritty installed as well because i like how damn fast it is. If alacritty had proper image support i’d probably only be using alacritty, but they are both great terminal emulators.
I recently switched from alacritty to ghostty as I wanted image support as ghostty implements the kitty protocol for it. Ghostty seems as fast as alacrity to me, but with better support. It even has a tmux type replacement, although I haven’t used it as I don’t need it with sway doing that for me.
Why not just use kitty? Just curious.
Its a bit slower than Alacritty for my use case, not massively enough, but enough to put me off. The extra functionality such as its TMUX stuff I just do not need. I think if you want a more fully featured terminal, particularly if you do a lot of code writing in the terminal, then I would pick Kitty.
I only really do quick remote editing in the console so its not important for me, and I do not want TMUX as I use a tiling WM. Terminal launch speed is particularly important to me because of this.
I haven’t tried foot yet, that is meant to be good for wayland and as I use Sway it might be better fit. I would need to get frustrated with Ghostty before I could be bothered to switch, which is what happened to me with Alacritty over image support, shallow as that sounds.
Ghostty is fast? It takes like 2 full seconds to open and I’m not even exaggerating. Kitty, Alacritty and foot take only a few microseconds to launch. I feel the same in regards to Alacritty, I’d use it as default if it had image support. For now I’m using foot.
Something wrong there, Ghostty is just as quick for me. Are you using an older PC?
Both load for me in milliseconds, even with fastfetch stuck in my startup.
Don’t know about old but definitely not slow. My PC has a ryzen 5 3600 and RTX 3060. All terminals have a fast startup time except for Ghostty.
ryzen 5 3600
Yeah thats what I would call old now, lol.
There is 100% something wrong with your Ghostty.
Heres a shitty gif I made to show you how fast Ghostty, Alacritty and Konsole is on my PC, all way less than a second and I am running a ton of background crap including different 4k animated wallpapers. Gif
That’s not old, definitely not for a terminal atleast.
Images in the terminal? At that point you’re just reinventing the GUI.
How am I supposed to get previews working in Yazi then? It’s not 1969 anymore. If you don’t like it stay on tty.
I just don’t see the advantage of shoehorning graphics backwards into text interfaces when we’ve got an entire integrated graphical desktop.
It’s very convenient for terminal based file managers. I use it to preview my wallpapers images and then i use a keybind to set it as the wallpaper for my window manager. I also recently started using rmpc, an mpd client that can display album art.
https://github.com/kovidgoyal/kitty/issues/8226 shows an example of rendered text.
Interesting, that’s the guy that develops calibre as well
This is cool! I’m almost more interested in the underline gaps for descenders that got snuck in as a “oh yeah I did this too” feature. That makes underlined text so much easier to read, IMO.
